Curse

Cathode_Reborn · Jul 15, 2009, 12:18 AM // 00:18

I've been AB'ing alot recently on my war and I've been messing with this abit:

Code:

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Pv...o=Submit+Query

Since the recharge on Esmash is so low, the result is tons of disruption since it can fuel Hammer Bash/Dchop so fast. Obviously you're gonna have to weapon swap. If you're good at it, you can quarterupt a target as it's getting back up from a kd, then put him back on the ground with Bash.

Best used in a balanced team, especially with another melee.

king_trouble · Jul 15, 2009, 12:24 AM // 00:24

Not one of my favorites elites to use for a hammer, but the built is alright. I prefer using an earth shaker or devastating hammer built in AB since because of the aoe knockdowns (which comes handy in mob vs mob sitations) or the weakness. That I also thing mage hunter smash due to the unblockable kd if the target is enchanted.

IronSheik · Jul 15, 2009, 12:56 AM // 00:56

I prefer it on a sin/ranger, more blocks/lols

Lux Aeterna · Jul 15, 2009, 03:26 AM // 03:26

Enraged smash builds rock face but mine is a bit different.

You're definitely going to want E-charge to get around between fights, also without it enraged smash can't quarterknock a stationary target.

Cathode_Reborn · Jul 15, 2009, 05:41 AM // 05:41

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Originally Posted by Lux Aeterna

Enraged smash builds rock face but mine is a bit different.

You're definitely going to want E-charge to get around between fights, also without it enraged smash can't quarterknock a stationary target.

It's possible. Assuming you're attacking a kd'd target with an ias, using Esmash is enough to fully charge Bash, which you can use to get up. In this case though, it's better to use Dchop first.

king_trouble · Jul 15, 2009, 05:45 AM // 05:45

In my opninion if your dchop is more of an annoyance for me, if I want a key skill disabled I would just bring a ranger or Mesmer with such skills

distilledwill · Jul 15, 2009, 05:59 AM // 05:59

Imo, if you want to take an interupt where you have to change weaps then take Dshot not Dchop. It is the balls.

Cathode_Reborn · Jul 15, 2009, 06:01 AM // 06:01

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Originally Posted by distilledwill

Imo, if you want to take an interupt where you have to change weaps then take Dshot not Dchop. It is the balls.

I used to take that on a rare occasion

GourangaPizza · Jul 15, 2009, 06:26 AM // 06:26

Why dchop? Wouldn't it be bloody obvious that people will know you're going to interrupt when you switch to an axe in their face?

Cathode_Reborn · Jul 15, 2009, 06:48 AM // 06:48

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Originally Posted by GourangaPizza

Why dchop? Wouldn't it be bloody obvious that people will know you're going to interrupt when you switch to an axe in their face?

1: Swap, Dchop, swap back. If you're bad at swapping, then yes, it would be bloody obvious. If you remember back when BB sins were popular, there was alot of bad weapon swappers.

2: No matter what weapon you're using, any good player that's on the floor should know that you're gonna make an attempt to quarterupt/knock them. In this case, they're first gonna get Dchop'd. If they make an attempt to cast anything that isn't 1/4, that's also gonna get interrupted by Bash.

That's the whole point to Dchop in this build - massive disruption/shutdown.

Lux Aeterna · Jul 15, 2009, 07:57 AM // 07:57

You can't go Hammer bash --> Enraged smash --> Hammer bash.

I've tested quite a bit, this only works with enraging charge and would be overpowered otherwise.

Enraged smash builds, however, are still strong due to the extremely high KD output, energy permitting.

Cathode_Reborn · Jul 15, 2009, 08:25 AM // 08:25

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Originally Posted by Lux Aeterna

You can't go Hammer bash --> Enraged smash --> Hammer bash.

I've tested quite a bit, this only works with enraging charge and would be overpowered otherwise.

E-smash gets you 4 adren. You can hit a target twice with an ias while it's KD'd with. That'll allow you to throw in a 2nd Bash.

IronSheik · Jul 15, 2009, 08:33 AM // 08:33

E smash at 14? Gets you 4 from skill, 1 from hit, so you can enraged-hammer bash- enraged- hammer bash, Energy permitting.

Lux Aeterna · Jul 15, 2009, 11:14 AM // 11:14

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Originally Posted by Cathode_Reborn

E-smash gets you 4 adren. You can hit a target twice with an ias while it's KD'd with. That'll allow you to throw in a 2nd Bash.

This isn't quarterknocking, and you have to be under IAS already.

I like the build though, it just can't quarterknock, also most people who use it put counter blow instead of mighty blow.

Cathode_Reborn · Jul 15, 2009, 08:51 PM // 20:51

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Originally Posted by Lux Aeterna

This isn't quarterknocking, and you have to be under IAS already.

I like the build though, it just can't quarterknock, also most people who use it put counter blow instead of mighty blow.

Oh right, qknock is somethin it can't do. That's where Dchop comes in.

As for Counter Blow, I've only had bad experiences with it. It's somethin I'd use mainly for linebacking, but if I have more opportunities to KD with Cblow than I can with Esmash, then that means my team isn't kiting enough.

There's nothing more annoying than not being able to Bull's/Esmash a target because someone on your team would rather stand there and get whooped rather than kite.

_Nihilist_ · Jul 16, 2009, 01:48 AM // 01:48

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Originally Posted by Cathode Reborn

There's nothing more annoying than not being able to Bull's/Esmash a target because someone on your team would rather stand there and get whooped rather than kite.

WTB "Move NOW, Stupid!" for all the players I've seen pull this shit...

Lux Aeterna · Jul 16, 2009, 03:37 AM // 03:37

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Originally Posted by Tyrael_Eveningsong

WTB "Move NOW, Stupid!" for all the players I've seen pull this shit...

This is what I say to enemy monks who won't kite me when I want to bull's strike them.
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Oh oh look at this: http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:W/N_Enraged_Warrior

So it CAN quarterknock... I'm gonna be trying this after skull crack axe.

EDIT: Skull crack axe is LEET, I blew up both the master of healing and enchantment first try with no effort, but then I Qrupted their rof and PnH because I'm awesome.

Bull's strike --> Qrupt --> 10 second daze covered by cripple = owned